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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve downloaded EQ2 now so I&#039;ll be giving it a fresh looksy with a more powerful system than I had when last I tried it.  I actually purchased the full game this time so I think I may see a whole lot more of the game.  I&#039;ll keep you posted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve downloaded EQ2 now so I&#8217;ll be giving it a fresh looksy with a more powerful system than I had when last I tried it.  I actually purchased the full game this time so I think I may see a whole lot more of the game.  I&#8217;ll keep you posted!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say, wow!  I am entirely unimpressed with the artwork in WOW.  I really like the game itself, but the graphics and artwork were not reasons why liked the game.  I liked the interface and the game play.  I kept playing WOW even after it began to bore me simply because I could play it easily on my laptop anywhere with a wireless connection.  Granted, you do need to have a really good rig to enjoy the graphics in EQ2, but the expense is worth it.  I hated not being able to log into WOW because it was busy and I really got fed up with the millions of small children who seem to inhabit the game.  I&#039;m still saying, wow, because I can&#039;t believe that anybody could say the WOW has better graphics then EQ2.  Is it easier to play, yes!  Is it more compatible with low-end systems than EQ2, yes.  Is it played by more people, yes.  Does it have better graphics than EQ2, hell no!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say, wow!  I am entirely unimpressed with the artwork in WOW.  I really like the game itself, but the graphics and artwork were not reasons why liked the game.  I liked the interface and the game play.  I kept playing WOW even after it began to bore me simply because I could play it easily on my laptop anywhere with a wireless connection.  Granted, you do need to have a really good rig to enjoy the graphics in EQ2, but the expense is worth it.  I hated not being able to log into WOW because it was busy and I really got fed up with the millions of small children who seem to inhabit the game.  I&#8217;m still saying, wow, because I can&#8217;t believe that anybody could say the WOW has better graphics then EQ2.  Is it easier to play, yes!  Is it more compatible with low-end systems than EQ2, yes.  Is it played by more people, yes.  Does it have better graphics than EQ2, hell no!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing against World of Warcraft, but I cannot play it because the gameplay is largely EverQuest and Dark Age of Camelot. I spent man-months of my life playing those and Warcraft is too much more of the same.

I agree that the art style overall, is well done, more so in the expansion. Your thought that some people just don&#039;t like it has a kernel of truth, however. Disney has found that about half the population outgrows a liking for cartoons at an early age (which is why kids channels are split between animation and live action shows)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing against World of Warcraft, but I cannot play it because the gameplay is largely EverQuest and Dark Age of Camelot. I spent man-months of my life playing those and Warcraft is too much more of the same.</p>
<p>I agree that the art style overall, is well done, more so in the expansion. Your thought that some people just don&#8217;t like it has a kernel of truth, however. Disney has found that about half the population outgrows a liking for cartoons at an early age (which is why kids channels are split between animation and live action shows)</p>
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		<title>By: rocrom</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>rocrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is everybody on 486s?  My rig is far from bleeding edge and EQ2 still runs fluidly, although I don&#039;t really play it any more.

WoW&#039;s graphics are quite simply - simple.  That&#039;s all.  Add in a bunch of color and sure, you&#039;ll get &quot;oohs&quot; and &quot;ahhs.&quot;  But that really is all there is to it.  Lots and lots of color.  Apart from that, there&#039;s really nothing worth mentioning in the visuals department.   Hell, I can&#039;t even tell what race some of the things are in that game.  Can be fighting a mob and trying to figure out if it&#039;s a dog or a rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is everybody on 486s?  My rig is far from bleeding edge and EQ2 still runs fluidly, although I don&#8217;t really play it any more.</p>
<p>WoW&#8217;s graphics are quite simply &#8211; simple.  That&#8217;s all.  Add in a bunch of color and sure, you&#8217;ll get &#8220;oohs&#8221; and &#8220;ahhs.&#8221;  But that really is all there is to it.  Lots and lots of color.  Apart from that, there&#8217;s really nothing worth mentioning in the visuals department.   Hell, I can&#8217;t even tell what race some of the things are in that game.  Can be fighting a mob and trying to figure out if it&#8217;s a dog or a rabbit.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveT</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what made WoW great. Not the art. They could’ve made EQ-style art, and they would’ve done fine.

Wrong. Really, really wrong. Your choice of art style affects everything about the game from the server (one or shards) to server population, to possible landmass of the world, to how many players can inhabit that space. Heck even the emotes that are able to be added.
Could Blizz have chosen a more photorealistic art style? Sure, but the game would not run as smoothly, with so many people in view, on such low-spec machines. EQ2&#039;s mirror-like water lapping poorly textured beaches throws you deep into the uncanny valley and everything you see subsequently is just &#039;off&#039;.
To get to max level in any game players have to hit level 2 first. 
Wow&#039;s launch was easily as smooth as CoH&#039;s, and boxes were on store shelves in abundance. EQ2&#039;s art is why I never made it off the dock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what made WoW great. Not the art. They could’ve made EQ-style art, and they would’ve done fine.</p>
<p>Wrong. Really, really wrong. Your choice of art style affects everything about the game from the server (one or shards) to server population, to possible landmass of the world, to how many players can inhabit that space. Heck even the emotes that are able to be added.<br />
Could Blizz have chosen a more photorealistic art style? Sure, but the game would not run as smoothly, with so many people in view, on such low-spec machines. EQ2&#8242;s mirror-like water lapping poorly textured beaches throws you deep into the uncanny valley and everything you see subsequently is just &#8216;off&#8217;.<br />
To get to max level in any game players have to hit level 2 first.<br />
Wow&#8217;s launch was easily as smooth as CoH&#8217;s, and boxes were on store shelves in abundance. EQ2&#8242;s art is why I never made it off the dock.</p>
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		<title>By: Stark</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you&#039;ve got to love the wrath of the fanboy.  I&#039;m generally with you on the WoW graphics, though once you get into the really &quot;ubah&quot; stuff it&#039;s just so oversized it&#039;s insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you&#8217;ve got to love the wrath of the fanboy.  I&#8217;m generally with you on the WoW graphics, though once you get into the really &#8220;ubah&#8221; stuff it&#8217;s just so oversized it&#8217;s insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Why WoW Is Good for Massive Games at MMOG Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Why WoW Is Good for Massive Games at MMOG Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] desired feature, while Lum laughs at a general one and Angus laughs at Lum. I&#8217;m kinda-sorta with Mark on all this finger-pointing: I think we have it pretty good nowadays. Most people want to play WoW, it seems, and that&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] desired feature, while Lum laughs at a general one and Angus laughs at Lum. I&#8217;m kinda-sorta with Mark on all this finger-pointing: I think we have it pretty good nowadays. Most people want to play WoW, it seems, and that&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rocrom</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>rocrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you ARE one of the billions and billions served that chooses McDonald&#039;s when going out for dinner.  Hey, they gotta be doing something right to be that successful right?

Myself, I tend to go for a good steak &amp; champagne.  Probably just be my &quot;sucky tastes&quot; though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you ARE one of the billions and billions served that chooses McDonald&#8217;s when going out for dinner.  Hey, they gotta be doing something right to be that successful right?</p>
<p>Myself, I tend to go for a good steak &amp; champagne.  Probably just be my &#8220;sucky tastes&#8221; though.</p>
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		<title>By: Micajah</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Micajah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really....&quot;sucky spectrum&quot; was the best you could come up with?

In all honesty, you can&#039;t include EQ1 in your initial comparison because World of Warcraft is entirely derivative of that initial foray into the MMOG space. Without the original EQ, there wouldn&#039;t be a WoW. 

Really, what caused WoW to dominate the market wasn&#039;t a superb release (WoW&#039;s was equally as crappy as EQ, or do you not remember the hour long queues to get into a server or the lack of actual product on store shelves), nor is it great art (honestly it&#039;s merely &quot;bright&quot; and &quot;full&quot;). 

No it has more to do with marketing to the low-end min-spec market and creating a fluid new player experience, both of which were done to near perfection. Even today, few games (aside from LotRO) provide gamers with such an easy-to-follow treadmill to max-level. 

That is what made WoW great. Not the art. They could&#039;ve made EQ-style art, and they would&#039;ve done fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really&#8230;.&#8221;sucky spectrum&#8221; was the best you could come up with?</p>
<p>In all honesty, you can&#8217;t include EQ1 in your initial comparison because World of Warcraft is entirely derivative of that initial foray into the MMOG space. Without the original EQ, there wouldn&#8217;t be a WoW. </p>
<p>Really, what caused WoW to dominate the market wasn&#8217;t a superb release (WoW&#8217;s was equally as crappy as EQ, or do you not remember the hour long queues to get into a server or the lack of actual product on store shelves), nor is it great art (honestly it&#8217;s merely &#8220;bright&#8221; and &#8220;full&#8221;). </p>
<p>No it has more to do with marketing to the low-end min-spec market and creating a fluid new player experience, both of which were done to near perfection. Even today, few games (aside from LotRO) provide gamers with such an easy-to-follow treadmill to max-level. </p>
<p>That is what made WoW great. Not the art. They could&#8217;ve made EQ-style art, and they would&#8217;ve done fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=13&#038;cpage=1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great comments so far.  

Byrd: I am an acknowledged Blizzard fan boy.  I am a big fan of a lots of other good things as well like water, food, and air.

Rob: If thinking the graphical presentation of a game could be a reason why it&#039;s more popular is ludicrous, then why don&#039;t more people seek out less attractive mates who have great personalities?  

Mike: Or you&#039;re just completely spent from coming up with your cripple metaphor…

RadarX: Okay, what are the current EQ2 subs?  I mentioned RTS and don&#039;t forget action-RPGs.  If Blizzard made Bejeweled it would have been appropriate since it, like the other games I mentioned, dominates it&#039;s market.  I should have mentioned Lost Vikings but I&#039;m not sure how it fit in to the multi-character side scrolling platform market at the time.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great comments so far.  </p>
<p>Byrd: I am an acknowledged Blizzard fan boy.  I am a big fan of a lots of other good things as well like water, food, and air.</p>
<p>Rob: If thinking the graphical presentation of a game could be a reason why it&#8217;s more popular is ludicrous, then why don&#8217;t more people seek out less attractive mates who have great personalities?  </p>
<p>Mike: Or you&#8217;re just completely spent from coming up with your cripple metaphor…</p>
<p>RadarX: Okay, what are the current EQ2 subs?  I mentioned RTS and don&#8217;t forget action-RPGs.  If Blizzard made Bejeweled it would have been appropriate since it, like the other games I mentioned, dominates it&#8217;s market.  I should have mentioned Lost Vikings but I&#8217;m not sure how it fit in to the multi-character side scrolling platform market at the time.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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