Comments on: Episode 53 – Going Down the Tubes http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178 Blog and Weekly Podcast on New MMOs, Other Cool Video Games and Glorious Geekery Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:19:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: openedge1 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-921 openedge1 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:19:59 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-921 @heartless First, I still see NO PROOF of hero classes in your links, except it was "discussed" Nothing about launch. Again you offer more forum posts from Tseric, another CM. What does a CM know compared to a Dev. What about a link to an actual post or article from Blizzard? As to me "using the tool", you provided the initial data, and it is YOUR argument. It is up to YOU to provide your proof. I used the tools I had at hand to find the data I did. My data finds information about an arrogant CM who tried to promise the world, and everyone knows about Tseric as well. Very unforgiving and as we can see from your links, not very forthcoming about data. I still see nothing here that makes me think "Hero Classes" were a given. And according to all data, they continued to say AFTER launch they were being "worked" on...thats it. Your proof still fails. @heartless
First, I still see NO PROOF of hero classes in your links, except it was “discussed”
Nothing about launch.
Again you offer more forum posts from Tseric, another CM. What does a CM know compared to a Dev.
What about a link to an actual post or article from Blizzard?
As to me “using the tool”, you provided the initial data, and it is YOUR argument. It is up to YOU to provide your proof.
I used the tools I had at hand to find the data I did.
My data finds information about an arrogant CM who tried to promise the world, and everyone knows about Tseric as well. Very unforgiving and as we can see from your links, not very forthcoming about data.

I still see nothing here that makes me think “Hero Classes” were a given. And according to all data, they continued to say AFTER launch they were being “worked” on…thats it.

Your proof still fails.

]]> By: I’d like to thank my parents… « Geek Critique http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-920 I’d like to thank my parents… « Geek Critique Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:34:36 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-920 [...] Wars MMORPG. The podcasts in question from the Channel Massive lads can be found here (BioWare) and here (Jedi). Both mentions made me laugh, so respect for the guys doing the podcasts, especially after I [...] [...] Wars MMORPG. The podcasts in question from the Channel Massive lads can be found here (BioWare) and here (Jedi). Both mentions made me laugh, so respect for the guys doing the podcasts, especially after I [...]

]]> By: The Nameless One http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-917 The Nameless One Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:32:46 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-917 Wow... after all this time you still have some sand in your vagina? Might want to get that removed. I think that might have turned into a pearl by now. Wow…

after all this time you still have some sand in your vagina?

Might want to get that removed. I think that might have turned into a pearl by now.

]]> By: heartless_ http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-914 heartless_ Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:32:48 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-914 It is quite funny when you hand someone a tool and they refuse to use it. Openedge could of taken the time to use the tool provided, searched for something simple (lets say hero classes), and found any of the following: http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8902152.htm http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8904059.htm Or one of the hundreds of posts from Caydiem. Obviously he did something right to be allowed to post hundreds of times in regards to hero classes. I know it may be hard for you to believe that Community Managers would be the ones to actually talk to the community about changes to the game. It is quite funny when you hand someone a tool and they refuse to use it. Openedge could of taken the time to use the tool provided, searched for something simple (lets say hero classes), and found any of the following:

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8902152.htm
http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8904059.htm

Or one of the hundreds of posts from Caydiem. Obviously he did something right to be allowed to post hundreds of times in regards to hero classes.

I know it may be hard for you to believe that Community Managers would be the ones to actually talk to the community about changes to the game.

]]> By: mark http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-904 mark Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:30:31 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-904 OpenEdge1, that is truly priceless. Thanks for digging that UD referenence up! So the almighty source Heartless_ chose to use for his argument is actually a former WOW CM, now legendary for being an overzealous moderator. That's awesome. No DEV quote, nothing from Pardo or the gang, just a vague statement/denial from a flaky CM. Very nice er..."evidence." OpenEdge1, that is truly priceless. Thanks for digging that UD referenence up!

So the almighty source Heartless_ chose to use for his argument is actually a former WOW CM, now legendary for being an overzealous moderator. That’s awesome. No DEV quote, nothing from Pardo or the gang, just a vague statement/denial from a flaky CM. Very nice er…”evidence.”

]]> By: openedge1 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-902 openedge1 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:51:25 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-902 I had to comment on the "Heroes" data provided above. If we look at the data on the link provided for the "Blue" tracker, we note the quote is from some user. The actual quote cannot be read anymore. Also, the quote was made by Caydiem Caydiem is noted here <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Caydiem" rel="nofollow">Caydiem on WoW Wiki</a> As a CM. This is not even posted by a Dev. I also wish to point out this little bit of info <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Caydiem" rel="nofollow"> Caydiem in the Urban Dictionary</a> <i> 1. An overzealous moderator of the World of Warcraft forums. 2. To become power hungry, to lust for power. 3. To abuse power. 4. To act with complete ignorance, believing you know best, even when you are clearly wrong. </i> I think this says a lot about the data for the "Heroes" information. Hmmm... I had to comment on the “Heroes” data provided above.
If we look at the data on the link provided for the “Blue” tracker, we note the quote is from some user. The actual quote cannot be read anymore.
Also, the quote was made by Caydiem
Caydiem is noted here
Caydiem on WoW Wiki
As a CM.
This is not even posted by a Dev.

I also wish to point out this little bit of info
Caydiem in the Urban Dictionary

1. An overzealous moderator of the World of Warcraft forums.
2. To become power hungry, to lust for power.
3. To abuse power.
4. To act with complete ignorance, believing you know best, even when you are clearly wrong.

I think this says a lot about the data for the “Heroes” information.
Hmmm…

]]> By: Onigato http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-901 Onigato Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:15:52 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-901 I gave up on the gem market. I dropped Mining so my supply dried up. I've moved on to doing my best to influence the Netherweave Bag (16 & 18 slot) markets. Feel free to log on and "loan" me 2000g. *Teasing* Mage already has the epic flyer, but I'm still working on getting one for my Warlock. LoL. I gave up on the gem market. I dropped Mining so my supply dried up. I’ve moved on to doing my best to influence the Netherweave Bag (16 & 18 slot) markets. Feel free to log on and “loan” me 2000g. *Teasing*

Mage already has the epic flyer, but I’m still working on getting one for my Warlock. LoL.

]]> By: Jason http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-900 Jason Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:32:26 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-900 Oni- Nice of you to pop by with a witty "I like pie" comment. *rolleyes* How's my apprentice doing? Still keeping control of the Jade market? :) heartless_ Don't worry. We haven't forgotten about you. Oni-

Nice of you to pop by with a witty “I like pie” comment. *rolleyes*

How’s my apprentice doing? Still keeping control of the Jade market? :)

heartless_

Don’t worry. We haven’t forgotten about you.

]]> By: Onigato http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-899 Onigato Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:50:44 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-899 I thought I'd take this time to mention... I like Pie. That is all. ^_^ I thought I’d take this time to mention…

I like Pie. That is all. ^_^

]]> By: heartless_ http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178&cpage=1#comment-897 heartless_ Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:32:10 +0000 http://www.channelmassive.com/blog/?p=178#comment-897 Ignorance is bliss. http://hgamer.blogspot.com/2008/08/fact-checking-mission.html Please educate yourself. Ignorance is bliss.

http://hgamer.blogspot.com/2008/08/fact-checking-mission.html

Please educate yourself.

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