Episode 61 – Hacked Again

The M-Team discusses yet another EVE Online security vulnerability, Google Lively, MMO Glider, WAR subscription counts, and more.

00:00:00    Introduction
00:03:25    What We’re Playing
00:30:12    Mail Bag
00:46:57    The Week in Gaming
01:01:56    Blog-O-Steria
01:20:24    Conclusion

Obligatory show notes:


EVE Online Trojan Warning
Google Lively Shall Rule the World!
Blizzard wins 6 Million from MMOGlider
WAR Nets 500 Players in first Week


Bacon, Eggs, and Spam!  But I don’t like spam!

21 Comments to Episode 61 – Hacked Again

  1. tempestryder's Gravatar tempestryder
    October 9, 2008 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Is it just me, or is there no sound/music between bits?

  2. October 10, 2008 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Yeah I noticed there were long periods of nothingness as well. Thought maybe it was done for dramatic effect, but it was really just awkward… :(

    On the EVE Macro thing. After CCP put that statement out and the blog-o-sphere started reporting on it, there were a lot of commentors going around saying that the macro was perfectly safe and tested by other sources, but CCP was putting that out to discourage people from using this completely undetectable macro program. lol

    Also, and update to this story… CCP Navigator made a post on the official EVE forums yesterday talking about the rise in “hacker” attempts lately. They made refference to a YouTube video that I would like to take credit for bringing to their attention because I’m that cool. ;) It was pretty stupid, it was basically a video that told people to send their ID’s and passwords to a hotmail account and it would automatically reply back with a GM password or something stupid like that. To be honest, if you fell for it, you probably deserved to have your account hacked. hehe, Anyways there seems to be a lot of that going around lately… Personally I blame the Chinese. Damn communists!

  3. Josh from Down Under's Gravatar Josh from Down Under
    October 10, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Actually, there were a few music spots that worked.

  4. tempestryder's Gravatar tempestryder
    October 11, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    It was clearly the neck beard’s fault.

  5. October 11, 2008 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps if Noah spent less time combing his neck beard to preview the podcast before it gets put online for download this wouldn’t have happened.

    Or Jason could have used his new 486 to preview it?

    You guys all suck …. Even you Jim! Mr. I can’t even play kickball without breaking my foot.

  6. October 12, 2008 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    I apologize for letting this happen. I know the occasional podcasts that I edit have set a standard of excellence that Mark is incapable of achieving.

    @Nerrollus, unless you’re a hot girl sending your explicit photos to m a l e, all I read from you is blah, blah, blah…

  7. Julien's Gravatar Julien
    October 12, 2008 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    To be honest ever since Jim joined the show in episode 6, the whole things has gone down hill… maybe he should have broken something more important than his foot at that x-treme sports kickball game because then we wouldn’t have to listen to his brainless drivel every show… seriously Jim, you are a terrible influence on all your co-hosts…psh…

  8. dumbass's Gravatar dumbass
    October 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    You guys sure are cynical these days. Is there ANY mmo you guys like. I could careless about console games. I’m sick of hearing about Rock Band and the goofball playing his gay DS games.

    Guess it’s time for me to move on. You guys seem to hate on every MMO.

  9. dumbass's Gravatar dumbass
    October 13, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    You guys mope and moan about how WAR or any MMO is “meh” and you’ll be quitting soon. You have no enthusiasm about anything other than ranting about ranters. The podcast has 1 guy that plays WAR and is apathetic at best (“I’m already wondering if I should login…”) and the rest are to busy banging on make believe drums/guitars or playing DS games.

    I used to listen to you guys for MMO news and entertainment related to but lately there less and less about MMOs and more about other things I really didn’t sign up to listen for.

    I’d rather hear the one guy actually playing MMOs talk about MMOs than hear about how well some dork did on guitar hero in “ultra mode” or whatever it is. I’m not suggesting you have to have 100% MMO topics but when the small amount of MMO discussion is bagging on the genre and then completely unrelated topics for the majority of the show.

  10. October 13, 2008 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Can I have your stuff?

  11. October 14, 2008 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    The irony of your username is totally lost on me. Since you obviously paid no attention to episode 61, please allow me to recap for you. In this episode, Noah and I, who are “actually playing MMOs talk about MMOs,” spoke for 10 minutes about how much fun we had playing the browser-based MMORPG, Kingdom of Loathing — a game of which many of our listeners may have not heard, and perhaps would like to try. Then, Mark (the self-admitting WoW fanboi) talked for several minutes about his game play in WAR and how much fun he’s having (though he did admit that at some point in time he inevitably will go back to WoW). So, even if he does eventually vote “meh” for WAR, he always trumpets his love for WoW. Nonetheless, between Mark and Jason we heard about two guys (count ‘em, two guys) “actually playing MMOs talk about MMOs” for over 15 minutes. While I didn’t hear anyone bagging on the genre, I did hear both of them admit that WAR may not be the greatest game ever (perhaps it is our honesty that has offended you?).

    In addition to the WWBP segment, all of the listener mail was MMO related, with the exception of the lovely vocal rendition of the Waitress’ classic from sexygurl88. Every topic in the TWiG was MMO related and of course Blog-O-Steria, as always, was an MMO topic. As far as the dreaded discourse about consoles that makes your ears bleed, Noah talked for an entire minute about those he’s been playing; Mark spoke about Rock Band and the Force Unleashed for about 30 seconds; and Jason also mentioned playing Rock Band for less than half a minute — asking you to endure an utterly painful total of two minutes of non-MMO content from us and about three minutes from sexygurl88 (but who doesn’t like that?). Holy shit, five fucking minutes out of an 82+ minute podcast.

    So, I’m not really sure how you came to conclude that we are not delivering on MMO news and entertainment; but we’re happy to refund your Channel Massive subscription fee, since “this isn’t what you signed up to listen for.”

  12. October 14, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    If it makes you guys feel any better I still think the Channel Massive Podcast is ear sex.

  13. October 14, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Holy freakin’ cynicism man! There are plenty of other podcasts out there that speak in glowing, enthusiastic terms about their favorite MMOs. There are shows that will spend over thirty minutes discussing the beauty of the water, the poetry of the lore and the prolific mouth-frothing of the subscribed sycophants! Perhaps Dumbass would feel more satisfied with the ear-love available from those outlets. Personally, I’m a smart ass and I want my gaming podcasters to be smart asses as well. Did you guys know that they did a study at Cornell last year and found that Smart asses beat Dumb asses over 99% of the time? Another thing people listening and writing in should realize is that MMO fans (the ones that actually continue to pay for subscriptions) have a tendency to be well educated, possess a wide spectrum of perspectives and have a large and varied amount of interests. Yes, I do love a good MMO, but I play games on consoles as well and I enjoy the humor with which the Channel Massive crew approaches such topics. The sexy girl thing is a little creepy, but I’ll let it pass as mildly humorous and just move on. Enough of that!
    During the podcast, it was briefly mentioned that I had professed my love for Warhammer Online. Let me explain:
    I’ve played a lot of MMOs over the years, among other genres, and I am probably far more cynical than the crew at Channel Massive. Despite all of the different titles and different presentations, most MMOs are more similar than they are different. Warhammer is not really an exception to that, and yet, there is something refreshing about playing it.
    From the moment I logged on, I appreciated the interface most of all. It seems that Mythic took some of the best elements from many different MMOs, mixed them with care and gave us a menu display and inventory system that is immediately accessible to the veteran MMOer and easily mastered by even the most virgin of MMO neophytes. I also really like the questing system as it flows almost seamlessly from quest to quest and there is more content available everywhere than I can remember in recent releases. The questing also makes sense, is well written and does not become as frustrating as in some other MMOs where I have become lost trying to finish a quest before going online to find the solution. I also enjoy the periodic achievements that pop up as I’m playing as this adds flavor to the game and some incentive on the long grind to the upper levels. The item drops are frequent and even if unusable by my toon, they are easily sold to merchants for some quick cash. The exploration in the game is fun and rewarding and there are bits of humor dispersed among the chattering NPCs that add needed comic relief. There is also more of an overall sense of purpose with the constant RvR going on, something absent from other MMOs that I have played.
    There are bugs, namely the lag mentioned by the Channel Massive crew that makes characters and NPCs move position instantly which is a bit confusing at times. I experienced a few other random things like all of sudden gaining full morale when I was at a merchant, but I have no major issues with Warhammer. I’ll accept a few bugs here and there, especially for a newly released game.
    By the way, thanks for mentioning Kingdom of Loathing, a game that I had never heard of, but one that I plan on trying tonight if I’m not too tired. I definitely loved all of those text based games, my favorite probably being Planetfall. I say good show and damn the outlanders! Later,


  14. October 14, 2008 at 2:52 pm | Permalink


    I don’t know whether to thank you or to be afraid.

  15. Julien's Gravatar Julien
    October 15, 2008 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    To be honest I really don’t think its the Channel Massive Crew’s fault that they are cynical about MMOs… while, yes, arguably WAR is a good game, it obviously doesn’t match their taste, and you can’t come and raise hell because your favorite game has been bashed. I actually like the deviations from MMOs? why? Because there are almost absolutely no innovative, gripping games on the horizon and I feel now is a great time for the hardcore MMO player to broaden their horizons… I myslef have gotten into Crysis, Oblivion, and Company of Heroes… why? Because most MMOs on the current market are, “meh”. So while I wait for the LOTRO expansion (i had to plug LOTRO somewhere in this comment) dont expect me to be wasting fifteen dollars a month on games that dont deserve..i will be shouting, “Boom headshot” when North Korean brains are splattered agaisnt a wall…And I think, though I can’t speak for them, that the majority of the Channel Massive crew has this “meh” feeling towards most MMOs just as I do. Maybe u guys can just make a gaming podcast in general… but I’ll tell ya, I do miss the Whore Lore reviews…

  16. Julien's Gravatar Julien
    October 15, 2008 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    should probably check my posts for spelling and grammar errors in the future…but I think i got my point across…

  17. October 16, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    @ Julien

    Let us know how the Lotro expansion plays for you. I played the game when it came out for about 4 months until it became “meh” for me too. I must have read the Lord of the Rings series at least a dozen times since I first read the Hobbit in First grade. I love the artwork in Lotro and enjoyed playing it. Oblivion is an excellent game and I may play through it again on my PC since I upgraded prior to AOC, zzzzzzzzz being released. I’ve played both Crysis and Brothers and arms, but shooters almost always bore me and neither title was an exception. I don’t really know what it is, maybe that I spent so much time with weapons training, firing and cleaning in the Army, but shooters just always make go “meh” zzzzzzzzzz. Of the two shooters you mentioned, I enjoyed Crysis more. Brothers in Arms, despite the wonderful irony of the title just made me shake my head in disgust. But hey, that’s my problem. Enjoy them both and let me know about the new Lotro expansion when it comes out.

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